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PhukFace - Jul 22, 2006 - 08:30 PM
Post subject: TigerLAN XI Xbox game competition.

Vote here for TigerLAN XI Xbox game competition.

lordbyronIII - Jul 25, 2006 - 03:54 PM
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Let's break convention and do something NOT Halo.

Plus, Guilty Gear freaking rocks as a tournament game.

trsruiner - Jul 28, 2006 - 02:05 PM
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so what kind of attendance drop are you expecting with not having halo 2? that's pretty much asking for no one outside of the gamers members to come. guilty gear? good game, but most people don't know of it or play it. if the whole point is to get other people interested in gaming shouldn't you choose a more popular, well known game?

kurtmax_0 - Jul 28, 2006 - 02:48 PM
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I personally couldn't care less about Halo 2..... I would be happy to see it not played.

But then again, I don't touch the consoles at Tigerlan. So I realy don't care.

lordbyronIII - Jul 28, 2006 - 06:30 PM
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Yeah, there'll be people not coming because there's no Halo 2. But we are attempting to expose people to _good_ games. And let's face it, Halo 2's a party game, not a tournament game.

The attendance drop will be because the attendees would've been morons who don't know shit about games, and thus we are appeased.

trsruiner - Jul 30, 2006 - 02:12 AM
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lordbyronIII wrote:

that's pretty ignorant and rude.

www.mlgpro.com

go there. how about 5 players with 3 year 250,000 dollar contracts? national tournaments, corporately sponsored and going to be aired on USA? oh yeah, that means PEOPLE PLAYING HALO WILL BE ON TELEVISION. party game? okay.

this is pretty bad. I mean, I state my opinion, and you call me and others alike that probably will not attend if a game of interest is not played morons? way to get more people to come seriously.

Also making these statements I know there are tournaments of larger scale for PC games, but this is a console. when you have 7 major tournaments a year SELLING OUT the 200+ team limit that's pretty impressive.

this really makes me not want to attend another tigerlan. why would you hate on other "gamers"? This is just frustrating.

kurtmax_0 - Jul 30, 2006 - 06:09 AM
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Well why hate tigerlan because of what one person says.... I agree sort of. Although I don't think we should call people morons for enjoying Halo (maybe just "unenlightened").

I personally despise Halo, but as I said earlier I don't really care if it's played because i'm not going to compete in the console competitions...

trsruiner - Jul 30, 2006 - 02:42 PM
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kurtmax_0 wrote:

alright, well if there was a better tournament console FPS, then that should be played. I don't hate tigerlan, but being reminded pretty much everyone there is a PC elitist and hates consoles and halo does not make me want to attend. i know PC games are better than console, i know mouse and keyboard is better than a controller, people don't have to be a dick about it.

fastbilly1 - Jul 30, 2006 - 05:48 PM
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I hear that, thats one reason I never got into pc gaming up until the turn of the century. And it is the major reason I still dont play Counterstrike or Halflife online anymore, if at all.

CDplaya - Jul 30, 2006 - 07:24 PM
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Can't we all just get along? I mean come on. I play both PC and console, even though I'm terrible at both.

lordbyronIII - Jul 31, 2006 - 12:17 PM
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I'm not, as you say, a 'PC elitist.' I never had the money necessary to be a PC elitist, and I had an Xbox long before I had a PC that could play games - and I had both Halo and Halo 2 (collector's edition on 2, in fact).

I never said Halo wasn't _popular_ and media-friendly. I did say that if people were going to come merely because we were playing Halo, that most of those attendees won't be missed. I'm referring to Halo elitists and not to you.

On top of that, consoles are the sole reason that games are played at all, so 'hating on consoles?' Sorry, no. Hating on people that think Halo is the best game of all time? Well, yes. But it's my opinion and it's not a popular one.

Sorry you took it personally, you seem like a nice person.

jokeyxero - Jul 31, 2006 - 02:49 PM
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Guess what guys, Halo 2 is there, so are Guilty Gear, Madden NFL 06, James Bond: Agent Under Fire, and XIII. Want to know why?

Because this thread is to VOTE on what game to play.

Guilty Gear winning is an indication that it is being favored over Halo2 at the moment. However, the voting populace at the moment is only the club and past attendees that care to vote. If you get 200 people in here that plan to attend then Halo2 will probably take the lead. Advertising is the way to see what the public wants.

There is no "PCs are better than consoles" or vice versa. They each have their plusses and their minuses. As a developer I'd rather develop for a console because you know exactly what hardware and devices your game will be running on. I keep finding this more helpful as a gamer too. I'm tired of having games run like crap because there is a bug with the one specific video card in a machine. It's unreasonable to even ask the developers to fix it too because that 1% of their market can't run the game at full detail even though the card is powerful enough to do it. I think it is absurd to have to support 20 different architectures for one game, video, sound, processors, operating systems, etc. Makes me want to go to Sony and kick them for the ideas behind the PS3. And... screw it </rant> If you think that it's even possible for a PC or a console to be better than the other then you should probably come back to reality. It is personal preference. And don't even give the keyboard+mouse argument because most modern consoles support them now.

I'm so tired of seeing people hate something just because its popular or because they missed out on it when it came out. I see this all the time with Counter-Strike, Halo, and tons of other games and consoles and music and everything. Things get popular for a reason, they have good qualities. They may be complete crap otherwise but there is something fun that makes ppl want to play it. The more popular something is the more its defects will show through. CS is the big one in this case, its no more buggy than any other PC multiplayer FPS yet everyone hates it for the bugs, most of which aren't even bugs but network and cpu lag issues that can't be avoided. Due to its huge user base and great support team it is probably one of the most stable games out there. If you play any game of that nature, where speed and accurracy and small details get more and more important the better you get you'll start to realize that every game has the same bugs in those departments. They are unavoidable.

Ahh, I got on another rant. Screw it. </ranting>

Dark_Chick - Jul 31, 2006 - 10:23 PM
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I hope that Halo 2 is played at the tournament, (But my family, which consists of five people, all play Halo2 religiously) so thats understandable. Last time it was the same....Halo 2 didn't get high in the voting until right before the tournament. Most at tigerlan don't like Halo 2 much...(which is fine) BUt yes, I will be thrilled if we get to play it in the tournament. (Maybe I'll actually win something this time....) Smile

Once they get the fliers out and everything that's when Halo will most likely start to get higher.

trsruiner - Aug 01, 2006 - 07:17 PM
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it is true that poll never reflects what people want to play. I believe Cel Damage close last time there was voting, and that isn't real. That's just people that probably wont even participate in the competition voting for "not halo". oh well. If I was actually going to pick a game to play it would be Halo 1, or Mario Kart 64 time trials on Luigi Raceway, but that's just me.

fastbilly1 - Aug 01, 2006 - 10:22 PM
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Mario Raceway is how the tourneys usually go though. That or Daytona USA Beginner race best lap...though we kinda destroyed that record one year with a time of 18 seconds - Twin Galaxies doesnt use that one anymore for that reason.

trsruiner - Aug 02, 2006 - 12:02 AM
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fastbilly1 wrote:

yeah, i'm just not a huge fan on mario raceway. i like it alot, but i am just a bigger fan of luigi's raceway.

fastbilly1 - Aug 02, 2006 - 01:33 AM
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Im a bigger fan of Choco Mountain than anything actually. That or good ole Koopa Troopa Beach/Bowsers Castle. Well time to go play Mariokart again...

trsruiner - Aug 02, 2006 - 06:12 AM
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yeah, but you jump over on at least 2 spots on choco mountain, so your laps are like really short. will someone bring a 64 to tigerlan?

lordbyronIII - Aug 02, 2006 - 12:14 PM
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I intend to participate in the competition whether or not it's Halo 2.

Phoenix2005 - Aug 03, 2006 - 01:09 AM
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I plan on attending also, no matter what the game, but as an MLG player/Past Halo 2 TigerLan winner, it sure would give me more incentive to come if there were Halo 2, in addition to whatever else I might would play...

lordbyronIII - Aug 10, 2006 - 02:51 PM
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But the point of holding competitions is not to entice people to come - the overall veneer of TL is a gaming 'forum,' if you will, where we all get together and have a giant LAN party. The point of the competitions is a) sponsorship and b) giving away the stuffs the sponsors donate to make sure that it's a recognized event and therefore able to be in Foy and all that good stuff. I know now that Halo 2 will be played at Tigerlan. Whether or not it's played as an 'official TigerLAN competition,' well, that's up for grabs. Until tomorrow night that is.

jokeyxero - Aug 11, 2006 - 01:23 PM
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Don't need sponsors for Foy. Just need to be a student club for that.

Sponsors are for prizes, prizes are for getting people in the door, competitions are to get people in the door, and while people are in the door we sneak new games into their life to expand their horizons and promote gaming in general. The benefit to the sponsors is they get to advertise in a very directed, targetted, and intimate venue which pushes their sales up. When their sales go up they do more research on new products, gamers get the benefit of these new products. The new products make new games possible, which we want to let gamers know about. It's the circle of life for the gaming community.

grey - Aug 15, 2006 - 06:09 PM
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How do you vote on the game that will be played? I just moved here and I plan on coming out to the lan party on friday.

jokeyxero - Aug 16, 2006 - 01:54 PM
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The polls are for TigerLAN and have already closed. TigerLAN is a once a semester public lan party that will be 30 Sept.

The "lan party on friday" is just the normal weekly meeting, no competitions there, usually.

kurtmax_0 - Aug 16, 2006 - 02:12 PM
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jokeyxero wrote:

...The "lan party on friday" is just the normal weekly meeting, no competitions there, usually.

*edited by me to try and better comply with club general policy...

jokeyxero - Aug 16, 2006 - 11:43 PM
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cute

Phoenix2005 - Aug 19, 2006 - 04:59 PM
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So will Halo 2 still be played "competitively" now that Guilty Gear was picked as the "official" game? Just curious...

lordbyronIII - Aug 21, 2006 - 01:59 PM
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OK, there isn't an 'official' Xbox game at TigerLAN... it's just we'll be playing Guilty Gear as the 'official' Xbox competition for prizes. I'm sure many people will be using Xboxes to play Halo / Halo 2 competitively a good majority of the event.

Phoenix2005 - Aug 22, 2006 - 02:22 PM
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Oh well, I got tickets to Alabama vs. Florida game in Gainesville, so I probably won't come this semester seeing as the only thing I'm good at is Halo and I suck at all other games.

Maybe I'll come next semester...

Dark_Chick - Aug 31, 2006 - 01:55 AM
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I'm glad we're having DDR! And UT2004!!!! Though most of you guys are like....Masters of the DDR. Can I bring my 'soft' pad to play on, not during the tournament, but just to play whenever? I had a really hard time using those Metal pads.....or hard pads...whatever.

lordbyronIII - Aug 31, 2006 - 02:56 AM
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Dark_Chick: Yes, anyone may bring any form of controller or hardware they desire for free play.

Phoenix: The point of TigerLAN is to expose people to new games; i.e., Halo is not the only game in the world; other people besides you will suck at all other games; and if you don't want to hang out with us because we're not gonna play Halo competitively this time around you can say so in as many words and I promise you we won't freak.

Dark_Chick - Sep 02, 2006 - 12:46 AM
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cool....thanks

fastbilly1 - Sep 02, 2006 - 01:00 AM
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Can I bring an Oonga-Ba Oonga-Ba cab? You said any form...

trsruiner - Sep 03, 2006 - 11:43 PM
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lordbyronIII wrote:

I think it should be "games other people probably don't play" games because all the games listed are pretty old.

also this poll thing is pretty bad. how many people voted? and how many people normally participate? and voting is usually done before fliers are out, so no one but board members that frequent the board get to vote.

kurtmax_0 - Sep 04, 2006 - 04:52 PM
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The reason older games are chosen for competitions is they normally have the bugs worked out and the game balance is normally better...

Death - Sep 05, 2006 - 02:28 AM
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Last time maybe a hundred people were there on Saturday....on Sunday, about 50 or less. It was cool....

jokeyxero - Sep 05, 2006 - 02:59 PM
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An email is sent out about the polls to all members of the site and all members of the mailing list.
If you don't care about TigerLAN enough to join the website to troll the forums or to check the website every so often, then I guess you don't care enough to participate in the voting process.

Public LAN parties are a giant series of catch 22's btw. For starters, you can't get sponsors without attendees, you can't get attendees without sponors. You can't make flyers that work without sponsors, you can't get attenedees without flyers, you can't announce games in flyers without the games being known, you can't decide on games without attendees to vote, you can't get attendees without flyers. Etc etc etc.

Like all parties, the success is based on potential (hype). If it is sold well then it should do well. Then it has to actually do well to sell well again, sorta.

You can cut these corners and get ahead of the game in a few ways:
- preflyers, announcements just about the idea, with little to nothing concrete
- decide on things without full involvement of the participates
- make promises you hope you can keep
- get investment capital or grants
- hype yourself or get others to hype you (viral marketting)
- website, internet advertising

But, back to work now...

trsruiner - Sep 07, 2006 - 01:41 AM
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kurtmax_0 wrote:

The reason older games are chosen for competitions is they normally have the bugs worked out and the game balance is normally better...

i know that. I was just saying that the phrase "expose people to new games" should be more like "expose people to games they have not played" because the games are not "new"

also, i know the intensity of getting sponsor for lan parties and tournaments. I worked for the NEGL, the AGP, and helped with advertising MLGpro, before they went corporate. I believe people need to be exposed to other games, but it would make more sence to highlight the more popular games, not only on xbox, but on the PC and PS2 as well, that's just the best thing i have found.

I also think a good idea would be to get feedback at events. you would probably get more votes just asking people at the event rather than hoping they will log on, create an account, and then read your email, get back on the forum, and then vote. even if the event isnt for a few months, you probably arent going to have a tournament game that is that new. Just an idea.

It's the same in the PC end, I don't think TFC is a good choice, it's fun, i like the game, but alot of people don't know what that is. I believe CoD or CS, or something along those lines would draw a larger crowd, and then you can introduce them to other games that they may enjoy.

fastbilly1 - Sep 07, 2006 - 01:57 AM
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CS was done last year, three teams signed up - this was with intense advertising, I spearheaded the web pr for the tourney personally. Thus far I know of four different TFC teams signed up already.

I believe the problem comes down to time. I mean hell if they wanted a huge group of people to come, hold a Madden tourney. Its just to have a good game you need atleast five minute quarters, which equates to atleast thirty minutes a game. So if fifty people show up, and you can run five machines at once, that still comes down to roughly three hours for the first round, estimating out to about six hours for the tourney. Same can be applied to Battlefield x, Counterstrike, or even TFC. Granted there have been tourneys of all of these atleast once at Tigerlan, sans Madden, and always TFC brings the biggest crowd. And, ironically, even though it is a tournament, those players dont care if they win or lose, because they are just having alot of fun. Its not the best team tournament FPS, but then again nobody really wants to play Quake III Harvester.

Ill leave most of the other tourney stories to xero, since I wasnt at 1-3. But I will say one last thing, it seems like this year we might actually have a quality RTS tourney. I mean even when Warcraft 3 was played back at 5 there were only about four participants, and Doug schooled them all and walked off with both standees for the upcoming Frozen Throne expansion.

kurtmax_0 - Sep 07, 2006 - 02:22 AM
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Um... are there PC gamers who have not heard of TFC?!!!

trsruiner - Sep 07, 2006 - 02:38 PM
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kurtmax_0 wrote:

Um... are there PC gamers who have not heard of TFC?!!!

not seasoned vets like everyone here apparently. how old is TFC? think of younger people that have never been to a tournament, a lan, or anything of that nature that just go to EB when some commercial for a new game comes out. alot of people like that will play HL2, BF2, CoD2. remember incoming freshman/sophomores being between the ages of 17 -19. they probably haven't been playing PC FPS's for a long time.

kurtmax_0 - Sep 07, 2006 - 11:17 PM
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WTF? I was playing PC games since I was two and a half.... TFC isn't *that* old. I could understand in three or four more years the whippersnappers might not have heard of it.

But by then there should be video game history classes in schools so they will have NO excuse...

trsruiner - Sep 08, 2006 - 06:51 PM
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kurtmax_0 wrote:

april of 1999 was a while ago especially for younger people.

Phoenix2005 - Sep 10, 2006 - 10:22 PM
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I'm not trying to dis TigerLan, I think it's great, and I know it's mostly for computer games, with some console stuff thrown in. I just know of alot of Halo players around Auburn, and it was good MLG-type practice for me last year, (before they cancelled MLG Atlanta on me).

I guess I was just mad because there are never any good Halo 2 Lan's around here, and I saw last semester's Halo 2 part of TL as maybe getting some of these guys off MLGPro to come.

And BTW, I found out TigerLan on MLGPro.com, because last year I went to Alabama not Auburn.

lordbyronIII - Sep 11, 2006 - 01:51 PM
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trsruiner wrote:

april of 1999 was a while ago especially for younger people.

Let's not forget that even the modern day 'younger people,' if they really are FPS fans, are following Fortress Forever and Team Fortress 2.

Also, are there any 'new' Xbox games? (not 360 mind you; just Xbox.) So, yes, I mean expose people to games they haven't played before... in other words, games that are NEW to them.

jokeyxero - Sep 11, 2006 - 02:31 PM
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Phoenix2005 wrote:

I guess I was just mad because there are never any good Halo 2 Lan's around here, and I saw last semester's Halo 2 part of TL as maybe getting some of these guys off MLGPro to come.

You know you don't actually have to wait for someone else to throw a LAN party. We always encourage others to have their own LANs.

Scorpion - Sep 11, 2006 - 02:44 PM
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trsruiner wrote:

I believe CoD or CS, or something along those lines would draw a larger crowd, and then you can introduce them to other games that they may enjoy.

There's a saying among us old people that goes something like, "You can lead a gamer to DOOM3 but you can't make him play."

In an enviroment such as TigerLAN, tons of people strolling about and a tourney every couple minutes, it's hard to get that massive horde of single-game gamers to look at anything new or different. They mainly waltz in, play their one tourney and leave or stand around the play zone where they are most comfortable.

Getting these gamers involved in something new to them is difficult if not impossible at times. They have their one trick and they don't want to leave their comfort zone.

If one caters to their wants, nothing is accomplished except for having a huge crowd.

But then all this is a moot point anyway. xero and others pimp the website every chance they get. Especially at club meetings with new people, TigerLAN and via flyers. If people cared, they'd have voted. Remind yer buddies next time. It's not like we charge to join the forums.

(Gouji wanted me to call them closed-minded infidels btw.)

kurtmax_0 - Sep 11, 2006 - 08:07 PM
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BURN TEH INFIDELS!!!!

(Oh wait.. wrong forum...)

lordbyronIII - Sep 11, 2006 - 11:56 PM
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heheh your crowning jewel of the day was still:

kurtmax_0 wrote:

... wait. There are gamers who haven't heard of TFC???

Cpt.Kill - Sep 18, 2006 - 04:08 PM
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lordbyronIII wrote:

I play Halo 2 alot. I would love to see it played. It is a party game to noobs that don't know how to play it, but if your really good then its only fair to play Halo. I'm not a moron at video games either, I have been playing games alll my life. I know alot about them, and face it Halo 2 is going to be the game that gets video game competitions nationally known.

When we do play Halo make sure you take off your voice masking first... we like to hear the little girls talk.

fastbilly1 - Sep 18, 2006 - 05:34 PM
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I thought gaming competitions were internationally known with Pacman, the 1980s series of Twingalaixes Videogame Olympics were attended by the millions to watch people play Pacman, Galaga, Centipede, etc. Then again Quake Con has been huge the past, well, always. And thats another international gaming competition that has had a panel on the NYTimes frontpage, and I believe that it was on the front of a time, but I am not sure.

So shit man, were behind if Halo2 is going to take us nationally known. Granted in Korea there is that stadium for CounterStrike and Starcraft...

trsruiner - Sep 18, 2006 - 06:54 PM
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fastbilly1 wrote:

by the millions? what kind of venues were these? also, that's not a fair analogy, since there were not as many video games to be played, and they played almost every video game at these tournaments. most of twin galaxies events were multi game and multi platform. also, there was no xbox live or game servers or any online play. you had to go to these events to prove yourself. Also those events were only once or twice per year.

this is all just another attempt to justify that guilty gear was the game "people wanted to play" when that is about 99% untrue.

also there is a large difference between being internationally know by people that play video games and read video game related news, and video games being a part of popular culture. how many video games have a deal with USA to broadcast their video game tournaments in 2006? what about $10,000,000 dollars to begin a league?

and to make sure it's clear, I am talking about a single game, and in america.

go ask 100 random people what team fortress classic is, then ask them what halo is.

again, not saying halo is better than any CS or half life,or anything on PC, it's just more mainstream, attendance getting game.

when was the last national guilty gear tourney?

fastbilly1 - Sep 18, 2006 - 08:25 PM
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Personally I dont care weather Halo is played or Guilty Gear - it does not affect me in any way, shape, or form. Mainly since I wont even be there...And yes comparing TG to Halo tourneys is not a fair analogy, thats true but Quake Con is a fair analogy that has yet to be contended.

As for the last Guilty Gear tourney, Shoryuken held East vs West last November. Which was the follow up to a two national sets of tourneys (one US - one Japan) where the victors battled it out. Sadly it took place in California. Other than that I dont really know. Though if you really wanted to stress a 2d fighter, there are national/international tournaments for Street Fighter every year, yet it has never been a tournament at Tigerlan.

Oh and those TG tourneys were held in many places at once. The way they did it that worked the best was that they had convention centers in every major city that they could that had areas for each game (I believe at their height it was some 27 cities each with 100,000+ participants). When the tourney started everyone across the nation started at the same time. It was a hell of a lot of logistics and I can never see it happening like that again, what with the internet and all, but damn that was impressive even in the early 90s.

muramasa655 - Sep 18, 2006 - 09:35 PM
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Fastbilly1, I believe Capt. Kill was referring more to the US scene. Though video gaming events have been held all over the world for some time, real popularity in the US has been non-existent. Say what you will about discrete/isolated events in liberal states. I play Halo, and honestly, I hate it. It's so very addicting though, and so much competition makes it a prime choice for online play. Oh, and as a former Quake fanatic, I will say that Halo is a much more balanced game, easily the most competitive and well balanced online game ever made. I love video games, and have beaten many classics before I could read. (I learned to read when I was 5, f.y.i.) You need to research professional gaming in the US before you bash other posters, however. Halo 2 has created an enormous gaming community, (I'm sure SSBM would hold that crown, but silly nintendo...) and on November 14 MLG Tourneys will begin to be televised on the USA Network, for all those who don't watch VoD on MLGPRO.com. Point: It's really f*cking popular, whether you like it or not. Personally, I would like to see U.N. Squadron, Radiant Silvergun, R-Type 1-3, Contra/Contra III, etc. score contests... Or RPG shuffles, or something of that sort. They aren't multiplayer, but instead of casting away video game noobs who only play Halo, why not try and educate them? Xenogears, Final Fantasy 4,6,7,9, Bahamut Lagoon, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Double Dragon, Turtles in Time, Zelda: A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Contra III, Tales of Phantasia, Fire Emblem, Ogre Battle, ...how about some ever-popular Unreal? Teach them man, teach them... No one should ever have to live without hearing Kefka's theme, or without seeing Cecil destroy Zeromus... Zohar? I mean c'mon man... This is what it's all about.

Cpt.Kill - Sep 18, 2006 - 09:35 PM
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fastbilly1 wrote:

Ow owned...
Yea your right about Quake con I forgot about it, but it only happens once a year, and also its not even one solid game event. People can play whatever they want to lan, and Some people go to just show off their computers. I have seen pictures of the stadiums in Korea, but Halo has grown so popular right here in the states. MLG has grown so much in the past 2 years. From players paying to attend to Final Boss signing a million dollar contract just to play at MLG events. You can name off all the tournaments that happen all over the states that doesn't mean they are NATIONAL gaming events. MLG's 2006 season is being aired on USA Nov 14 which is pretty impressive.

fastbilly1 - Sep 18, 2006 - 11:02 PM
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Hey man we were both right and wrong, lets just leave it at that. (though I would consider Enemy Territory part of Quake - but thats just me)

And muramasa655, Ive been gaming since 86 and my cousin first got his Atari 7800 with choplifter. Ive been in and out of the US tournament scene since the late 80s and finally gave it up before it got glorified with the MLG and CAL. Overall Id say Ive been to atleast 300 tournaments (probably closer to 500), weather I competed or not is a different story. Also Ive known Jason Wendel since UT2k3s demo came out. so I think I know a little bit about US gaming. But my view is that not all the good players are in the US, or even of the age to compete. Thats why I always bring up international competition. I mean the best tournament Predator in AvP is from Germany and doesnt speak English past common curtsies and one of the best Tetris players Ive ever seen was only eight.

I honestly got out of formal competition for the simple reason that you meet a higher concentration of assholes in tournaments than anything else. Be it Halo, CS, Magic the Gathering, ASL, or even Pokemon. When people have their eyes on a prize their entire demeanor will change. Even trsruiner can agree to this, since I know hes seen his share of tournaments (semiformal to pro). Thats just not for me, not any more. Granted Ive played more board games in the past months than video games: Memoir 44 and ASL are the be all end all WW2 wargames, so my opinion may be a bit off.

Ack - Sep 18, 2006 - 11:40 PM
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For the record, USA also tried to make a show about Ebaum's World. Either way, it is not important.

As the current president of the AUCGC and leading coordinator for this year's TigerLAN, I would like to say first of all that I do not like Halo. But I will not deny its popularity. Yes, Halo and Halo 2 will be at TigerLAN. It is as certain as there being an Xbox to play on. However, we held a democratic election to see what would be voted in. I want you all to know that when the committee nominated games for the Xbox multiplayer tournament, Halo 2 was instantly put on the roster. In fact, the group had trouble coming up with many more titles to go up against it. However, in the past, there has also been heavy requesting for 2D fighting games. Guilty Gear is a 2D fighter. Therefore, to appease another large demographic of voters, we put this up as a selection. And Guilty Gear won.

I will not flaunt this here because yes, you are right, there was not much information going out about TigerLAN outside of the website. Unfortunately there have been several factors contributing against our semesterly gaming event this fall. For one, a very furious football schedule has limited the weekends for us to work with, mainly because we do not wish to compete against Auburn football, but also because we do not wish to compete with so many home games. Therefore, a weekend was selected that was much earlier in the semester than usual. If we had held TigerLAN in the normal time, polls would not be opened for another week or so. Most of the previous staff are also missing from this TigerLAN, having either graduated, been shipped out for military duty in foreign nations, or, in my case, going through a long recovery period after surgery. If you want something else to scream about, there will be fewer sponsors and fewer prizes at this TigerLAN because we had trouble contacting and confirming them.

Several things have not been brought up yet. For one, Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2 are becoming an old generation. It is very likely there will be limited use of them in the next TigerLAN IF there is a next TigerLAN. In fact, there was some consideration on not having any tournaments in Xbox for this TigerLAN, but due to a lack of real interest in current Xbox 360 games, it was decided we keep it. This was for the benefit of the gamers, not specifically for Halo or anything else. Do not bicker over the subject, it has been decided upon.

And yes, that leads us to the bickering. There is nothing you can say as of now that is going to make Halo 2 a competition. The arguing that is going on this forum has been entirely pointless. Halo 2 is not the tournament. It will not be the tournament. The titles that won the tournaments on a fair vote will stay as the tournaments. This will not be a problem. If you do not like what is played, you do not have to come. Attendance is not mandatory. I would prefer it if you did attend and give me your thoughts and input, but if a single video game title is so absolutely important to your existance as a gamer that it decides whether you come to this event, then I seriously think you should go rethink why you call yourself a gamer when you only play one game. I do hope this is not the case, however, and I will continue to look forward to meeting all of you personally. For the spring, if there is a TigerLAN and if there is an Xbox competition, then I invite you to vote on our forums to decide if Halo 2 will win. But for now you missed your chance. To those of you who are new to this, I apologize on poor timing. To those of you who have come in the past, I would ask why you do not check the forums more often. I am trying to make this as fair as I possibly can, but it takes your participation to get things to work.

As for the arguement about what is going to bring gaming to the mainstream...frankly, I do not care. This is not relevant to the tournament choice, nor is it relevant to TigerLAN. It does not matter who attended what tournament when or whether the local news, national news, or international news picked up and broadcasted the event. That is not relevant to an Xbox tournament held by a small university club in the middle of Alabama. The place to discuss this would be the General Game Discussion board, which is located in our forums. I personally invite each of you to debate your hearts out there as much as you wish. In fact, come to the weekly meetings and play games with us. Become full members and wear your gamer badge with pride. But this is not the place to discuss Halo 2 and whether it had a greater impact on American culture than PacMan. So do not discuss it here.

PhukFace - Sep 19, 2006 - 10:28 PM
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yet we all know that gordon freeman owns masterchief

[/tries to start flamewar]

Ack - Sep 20, 2006 - 03:11 AM
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Face...do me a favor and don't.

jokeyxero - Sep 20, 2006 - 02:03 PM
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*flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame* *flame*

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR! What is it good for? Absolut--profit, economy, patriotism, political change. Sorry, got confused. Absolutely nothing! War! What is it--*falls over dead*

Ok, I'm done. (war!)

Ack - Sep 21, 2006 - 02:03 PM
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I hate you...so much...

PhukFace - Sep 21, 2006 - 10:04 PM
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"We didnt start the fire!!!! Its been burning since the worlds been turning!!!

Ack - Sep 22, 2006 - 10:03 PM
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Guilty Gear Rules

We will be using Guilty Gear XX reloaded for the tournament. All matches will be 1 vs. 1.

If there are equal to or less than 8 players

2 rounds, shortest time settings (15 or 30 seconds)
double elimination

If between 8-16 players

double round, shortest time settings
single elimination

If over 16 players

single round, shortest time settings
single elimination